CWOP Information for FW8293 (F8293) in Crooked Creek, NC, US

The following information is known about FW8293. If you think that any information is incorrect, then please follow the instructions for correcting that data item.

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Registered Location

Latitude: 35° 34' 28" N (deg min sec), 35.5743° (decimal), 3534.46N (LORAN)
Longitude: 82° 11' 11" W (deg min sec), -82.1865° (decimal), 08211.19W (LORAN)
Elevation: 1663 metres (5456 feet)
Location: Crooked Creek, NC, US
County: McDowell, NC
Forecast Office: Greenville/Spartanburg (GSP)
Station type/software: Davis Vantage Pro 2/Vue with Weatherlink-Live

The elevation does not correspond with the estimated elevation (441 metres (1447 feet) -- source Geonames) at that point. Either the location or the elevation (or both) are almost certain to be incorrect. Please use the 'send the updated information' link below to update the location or elevation.

The site location should be at the mark shown -- or very close. Clicking within the map area (or you can drag the 'FW8293' marker) will display the latitude/longitude of that point.

If the displayed location (or elevation) of the weather observing location is incorrect, please drag the marker to the right location (or click in the right location), and then send the updated information. Please note that we are trying to spot either the Stevenson Screen (or equivalent) or the location where the barometric readings are taken.

The best way to get elevation is to consult a topographic map. Make sure that you know whether the contours are marked in feet or metres. Note that handheld GPS receivers do not provide readings of elevation accurate to better than 10-20 metres (technical discussion). If you do not have access to a topographic map, then a GPS receiver is acceptable, but make sure that it is operating in 3D mode and let it average the position for at least five minutes.

For more information on reading maps, please see the Topo Map Reading Guide -- in particular it discusses how to read contours.

NOTE: The Registered Location is the location that the station owner provided when they signed up with CWOP. Show location history.

There are no photographs of the station. If you are the site operator and have pictures of this location, then please email them to f8293@photo.gladstonefamily.net.

You can try to find photographs from the area surrounding the site marker by clicking on Find nearby photographs. (There are none)

Data Status

Data has been seen on each of the last 6 analyzed days.

The last 24 hours of weather data can be viewed at Findu. This page also provides access to the raw APRS packets and various other APRS related tools.

Recent observations from this weather station can be downloaded as a CSV file suitable for importing into various spreadsheet programs: last 7 days, last 14 days, last 28 days, last 56 days. This data can also be linked directly from Excel using a Web Query. The main link goes to the page with the data on it, and the IQY link is the Web Query that will access it: last 7 days (IQY: last 7 days), last 14 days (IQY: last 14 days), last 28 days (IQY: last 28 days), last 56 days (IQY: last 56 days).

All the means and standard deviations shown below are from the last 7 days. Change analysis period to Last 3 days  Last 14 days  Last 4 weeks  Last 8 weeks  Last 13 weeks  Last 26 weeks  Last 39 weeks  Last 52 weeks  

By default, the longer analysis periods display graphs that show the long term performance of this station. The graphs show the mean error over time, and include error bars which are one standard deviation long. This provides an easy way to see if there are any underlying trends in the data. Note that a 'step' in your data does not (necessarily) mean that something happened to your station. It could mean that another station came online in the local area, and they are changing the analysis.

The analysis is performed by MADIS. This web page just provides visualization of the data that MADIS produces. There are a number of very knowledgeable people who participate on the WXQC Mailing List who do understand exactly how MADIS works and can resolve issues when the analysis seems to be broken. However, in most cases, the station readings are at fault, or the software that is transmitting the data to CWOP. Please check those paths first.

You can also see how this station compares with other stations.

The inconsistency noted above in your location information means that the analyzed readings for your location may be incorrect. For example, if your location is incorrect, then the analysis values will be for a location other than your station. This will give different analysis results, probably leading to errors being shown below. If the elevation is incorrect, then the comparison of temperature readings will be in error.

A recently received weather report from this station was

Analyze: FW8293>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-5:@152045z3534.46N/08211.19W_048/000g003t060r000p000P000h85b10112L....DsWLL

Barometer

Average barometer error: 1.0 milliBars
Error standard deviation: 0.5 milliBars

 
MADIS
rating
MADIS rating 100% QC OK
 

Latest daily graph:

Latest daily graph

These values are within range, so your sensor is probably calibrated correctly.

Temperature

  24 hours  Day time  Night time
Average temperature error2.9 °F0.0 °F2.7 °F
Error standard deviation5.6 °F0.3 °F5.9 °F
Worst average temperature error6.7 °F-1.0 °F7.0 °F
Worst standard deviation7.0 °F0.0 °F7.1 °F

NOTE: If the error above is POSITIVE, then it means that the analysis temperature is HIGHER than the reported temperature. This means that your sensor is reading COLDER than expected.

 
 
MADIS
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MADIS rating 97% QC OK
 

Latest daily graph:

Latest daily graph

It appears that your station is sited in a location where cool air collects at night. This is often near the bottom of a valley. The cool nighttime readings are probably correct, and the analysis values are not taking into account the local topography.

Dewpoint -- or switch to Relative Humidity

  24 hours  Day time  Night time
Average dewpoint error-2.7 °F0.0 °F-2.9 °F
Error standard deviation2.3 °F0.1 °F2.2 °F
Worst average dewpoint error-4.5 °F-1.0 °F-4.3 °F
Worst standard deviation2.3 °F0.0 °F2.3 °F

NOTE: If the error above is POSITIVE, then it means that the analysis temperature is HIGHER than the reported temperature. This means that your sensor is reading COLDER than expected.

  Location problem
 
MADIS
rating
MADIS rating 100% QC OK
 

Latest daily graph:

Latest daily graph

There is a significant mean error in your dewpoint readings. You may need to calibrate your dewpoint sensor. Your readings are not within an acceptable error range. The automated problem analysis cannot identify the problem. You can signup on the wxqc mailing list and post information about this situation there. This is may be caused by poor siting of the sensor (e.g. under eves, in screen porch, or in thick tree coverage). For information on siting, see CWOP Station Guide.

Wind Vector

The wind vector is the average wind over the relevant period. Note that if the wind blows North for half the time at 2 knots, and then blows South for the other half of the time at 2 knots, then the result is zero -- i.e. North wind and South wind will cancel out. Over time, the direction of the wind and of the analysis should match pretty well. If the lengths of the vector are different, then it could mean either that your anemometer reads high or low, or that you are in a more shielded or more open space.
MADIS
rating
MADIS rating 86% QC OK
TodayLast 7 days
Wind vector chartWind vector chart for last 7 days

Neighboring Stations

This is a list of stations that are close to this station. Note that this is not the list of stations that are used in the data analysis. That list of stations is known only to MADIS. You can see all the stations at MADIS Data Display. Your station should be in the middle of the display. If you think that the analysis is incorrect, then maybe one of the close stations has failed.

You can look at those for comparison purposes. The average difference between your station and each station below is listed as well. This may allow you to detect local stations which are erroneous. You can also use these numbers to adjust your instruments -- especially if a number of ASOS stations have similar differences to your station. Also, try increasing the analysis period to more than the default 28 days. The difference is only given if both stations report reasonably often during each day. Some stations only report every 6 hours, and this makes the average of less interest. In this case, the average is not displayed. The values reported are the differences between this station and the neighboring station. I.e. if the difference is positive, then this station is reading higher than the neighboring station.

You can also subscribe to an RSS feed to tell you when new stations come online in this area. Choose either within 100 miles or 250 miles . For stations covered by your Forecast Office: Greenville/Spartanburg (GSP) .

SiteDistanceLocationBarometerTemperatureDewpoint
DW80324.7 milesWest Black Mountain, NC, US (lat 35.5868°, long -82.2688°, altitude 1003 metres) -0.5mb-0.3°F10.3°F
FW86008.1 milesNortheast Sugar Hill FD 2, NC, US (lat 35.6357°, long -82.0643°, altitude 1545 metres) 0.2mb-4.0°F0.5°F
CW82858.9 milesWest Fairview, NC, US (lat 35.5462°, long -82.3413°, altitude 821 metres) -2.1mb9.1°F4.1°F
FW08399.9 milesNorthwest Black Mountain, NC, US (lat 35.6512°, long -82.3342°, altitude 810 metres) -1.1mb8.3°F0.3°F
FW517410.2 milesNortheast PG FD, NC, US (lat 35.6902°, long -82.0737°, altitude 399 metres) -0.6mb20.1°F6.9°F
FW898511.0 milesSouth Lake Lure, NC, US (lat 35.4178°, long -82.1537°, altitude 343 metres) 0.6mb15.6°F-0.9°F
FW517211.8 milesEast Glenwood FD, NC, US (lat 35.6118°, long -81.9813°, altitude 396 metres) -3.3mb19.1°F-0.3°F
EW538012.7 milesWest Fairview, NC, US (lat 35.5120°, long -82.3987°, altitude 752 metres) -0.5mb7.0°F1.4°F
FW606813.7 milesWest Swannanoa, NC, US (lat 35.5948°, long -82.4288°, altitude 681 metres) 0.8mb12.2°F0.2°F
FW861217.8 milesSouthwest Fletcher, NC, US (lat 35.4690°, long -82.4758°, altitude 681 metres) -0.6mb13.4°F2.3°F

Quality Control Notes

This page reports on the quality control checks performed by MADIS. The green check mark and red cross are chosen based on the average performance during the analysis period (which is selectable above). The red cross can appear even if MADIS reports that all observations pass the MADIS QC checks.

The 'MADIS rating' reports on the percentage of observations that pass the MADIS checks. You should aim for two thumbs up!

Location Formats

The location is shown in three different formats. Each of these is used in some software, and is shown on some websites.

Degrees Minutes Seconds: VWS/VWSAPRS, WeatherLink 5.5, WeatherLink (5.2-5.4), WeatherView (Linux)

Decimal degrees: FreeWX, WeatherView32 (PC application)

LORAN: WeatherDisplay, WUHU, Henriksen WServer

Resources

CWOP Home: This describes the whole CWOP program and has a large amount of useful information.

CWOP Siting Guide (PDF): This is a guide to siting and operating a CWOP station. This is a must-read document.

Another CWOP Guide (PDF): This is another guide to siting and operating a CWOP station. This is a must-read document.

Urban Siting and Operations (PDF): This is a guide to siting and operating a CWOP station in an urban environment.

APRS WX Message format: This describes the actual format of the messages transmitted that carry WX information.

WXQC Mailing List: This is a mailing list where data quality issues are discussed. Assistance with software configuration can often be found here.

Topo Map Reading Guide: How to read USGS topographic maps, with a good section on reading contours.

Geographically nearby web pages: Use Geourl to find web pages that deal with locations geographically close to this site.


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